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 iPod Personal Radio Station

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Weighted play by ratings is absolutely the key to making your iPod a true personal radio station.

This is also not a perfect solution, but here's what I do:

Create the following smart playlists:


5 star songs that have not been played in the 
   last 7 days

4 star songs that have not been played in the
   last month

3 star songs not played in the last 90 days

2 stars not played in 6 months

1 star songs not played in a year


Finally, I have what I call a weighted random playlist of songs that are in any of those 5 smartplaylists.

It's taken a while for me to figure out the right length between plays to set for the different ratings, but I think what I've described above is working pretty well.

The problem with this system is that automatic update doesn't work for playlists that reference other playlists on the iPod. It works in iTunes, so I would hope this is a bug they'll eventually fix on the iPod.


by davepmiller on Aug 05 | 11:09 am
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Thanks - - this is helpful. I've found another way to use iPod as a personal radio station. Have a number of playlists with varied types of music (2 stars; Absolute Favs; Never heard; etc.).

As you know, you can create an On-The-Go playlist to capture several iPod playlists. I do this to mix different types of music.

If I want to give added weight to a particular playlist, I highlight it twice for the On-the-Go playlist. Doubles the possibility that one of its songs will be heard, and I've rarely (if ever) run across a repeat song this way. . . .


by Scott on Aug 18 | 2:59 pm

Instead of tinkering around with the days/weeks/months since last played (which would differ for every user, depending on library size, number of songs at each rating in it, and how frequently the SPL is used), it's possible to give weights that remain exactly precise and consistent ... for instance:

5 stars: limit to 150 songs by random (or least recently played)

4 stars: limit to 120 songs by ""

3 stars: limit to 90 songs by ""

2 stars: limit to 60 songs by ""

1 star SPL: limit to 30 songs by ""

Adjust weightings to suit personal taste, naturally -- for instance, I group 4 and 5 in the same SPL and cut the 1s out altogether, to reduce clutter.

Scott's right on the money with getting around the iPod bug -- dump them in On-the-Go.


by nyorker on Aug 19 | 7:03 pm

I want to ask about the On-the-Go thing in a separate post, but for people who use a method similar to the one I described I do think it's critical to select by least recently played instead of by random. Because the random order is static, selecting songs at random will cause the same ones to be selected even when the playlist has been refreshed.

As far as the weighting goes, I started out with something similar to what you've described (i.e. fewer 1-start songs), but I realized that I had been pretty selective in assigning the 5-star and 4-start songs, so I was in effect double-weighting by limiting the number of 1-star songs.

I agree the right weights are going to vary a fair amount from person to person. Thanks for the feedback.


by davepmiller on Aug 22 | 3:26 pm

Can anybody recommend a good reference for the On-the-Go playlist? I tried using it once, but I didn't find it very intuitive. I think I had trouble figuring out how to delete something I'd mistakenly added, and deleting always makes me nervous anyway. It sounds like it really would be a good solution, but I'd like some help getting started.


by davepmiller on Aug 22 | 3:29 pm

<<Because the random order is static, selecting songs at random will cause the same ones to be selected even when the playlist has been refreshed.>>

Sorry -- for those who don't know, for SPLs based on 'select at random' you need to add